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Ep 364: Pruning Season

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MARQUEL RUSSELL
Ep 364: Pruning Season
Sometimes God has to prune you to prove you.
Marquel Russell
Episode description

About Our Guest:
Dr. Marquel Russell helps business owners install systems to scale companies that are profitable, sustainable, and enjoyable without sacrificing what is most important – faith, family and freedom. He’s a 9th-grade dropout who traded textbooks for a crash course in real life. He puts his love of God and his family above everything, and is a proud sneakerhead with a serious addiction to scaling businesses faster than you can say “ROI.” To learn move about Marquel, visit www.marquelrussell.com

Episode Summary:

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"Sometimes God has to prune you to prove you." — Marquel Russell

You’ve heard the phrase "trust the process," but what if the process includes pain, pruning, and letting go of everything you built with your bare hands? In this episode of the Move to Millions Podcast, I sit down with Marquel Russell—client, friend, and million-dollar marketing genius—to unpack what it really takes to surrender your business to God's alignment without losing your mind… or your money. If you're tired of 18-hour days, being addicted to achievement, and secretly terrified that if you stop grinding, it will all fall apart—this episode is your mirror. Marquel pulls back the curtain on how he made the sacred shift to peace, purpose, and prosperity without having to hustle and sacrifice his family as he maintained and realigned his 7-figure business. We don’t talk hustle here; we talk harvest, and that starts with pruning. If you’re a Legacy Led CEO who’s ready to move from striving to stewarding, you don’t want to miss this episode.

This is your invitation to rebuild your business from the inside out. Let Marquel’s story remind you that letting go of what no longer serves you is not failure, it’s faith. Tune in to discover how you, too, can shift from pushing to prospering and finally build the business God actually called you to lead..

Here’s the truth: Hustle is not holy. You can be anointed and addicted to achievement. You can be celebrated by the world and still out of alignment with your calling. Until you confront the parts of your business built in survival, your peace will always be optional. The pruning isn't punishment; it's preparation.

This episode is a call to ditch the "more is more" narrative and embrace alignment as your most potent growth strategy. It challenges high-achieving entrepreneurs to reimagine success through the lens of spiritual obedience and sustainable impact. If you're making millions but losing yourself in the process, this is the wake-up call you've been avoiding.

Get your Move to Millions Podcast notebook ready, you’ll want to take notes on the lessons packed into this incredible conversation!  Listen in to discover:

✔ How to recognize when your business success is coming at the cost of your spiritual peace
✔ How to use pruning seasons as powerful pivots toward legacy-driven leadership
✔ How to rebuild with grace after breaking free from toxic hustle culture
✔ And so much more

Incredible One Enterprises, LLC is not responsible for the content and information delivered during the podcast interview by any guest. As always, we suggest that you conduct your own due diligence regarding any proclamations by podcast guests.  Incredible One Enterprises, LLC is providing the podcast for informational purposes only.

Powerful QUOTES
  • “At one point, I realized I had built a business I didn’t like anymore.” — Marquel Russell
  • “I had to surrender the idol of productivity to finally find peace.” — Marquel Russell
  • “You can build something big and still be out of alignment.” — Dr. Darnyelle Jervey Harmon
  • “Just because it’s working doesn’t mean it’s aligned.” — Marquel Russell
  • “I decided to trust God’s vision more than my own plan.” — Marquel Russell
Questions to Ask Yourself While Listening
  • What parts of my business are built on fear or ego, rather than faith?
  • Am I still aligned with the original vision God gave me—or have I drifted into performance?
  • What am I afraid will happen if I stop pushing so hard?
  • Have I confused prosperity with productivity?
  • Where is God asking me to prune so He can multiply?
Resources mentioned

Move to Millions Wisdom Questions:

Favorite Quote: “Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness.” Matthew 6:33

Book that Changed Everything: The War of Art by Steven Pressfied

Tool Marquel Swears By On His Own Move to Millions: Google Calendar

 

How to Connect with Marquel Russell:

episode transcript

Marquel R [00:00:00]:
Going through this pruning season made me feel a different type of way. Or the number is not doing the numbers that I wanted to do. At certain points it really showed me how much I was trusting in money and not trusting God.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:00:13]:
Oh, this is good.

Marquel R [00:00:14]:
And in reality you begin to realize that if you trust anything over God, that means that thing is your God.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:00:25]:
Did you know that only 1.9% of women entrepreneurs, 0.9% of black business owners, and just 0.5% of black women entrepreneurs ever cross the seven figure mark? That changes right here. If you are ready for high level, high income conversations about all things millions. Your mission, your mindset, your methodologies, your mandate, your movement, your messaging, your marketing, your metrics, and of course your money. Just by listening, your income is going all the way up. Every week you'll hear powerful stories, transformational interviews and million dollar business growth insights to help you scale and sustain a seven figure business with grace and ease, not hustle and grind. I am your host, Dr. Darnyelle Jervey Harmon, award winning spiritual business growth strategist, eight figure entrepreneur and God girl on a mission to help you experience abundance in your life because of your business. This is the Move to Millions Podcast Welco.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:01:36]:
Before we dive into this week's episode, let me ask you something real quick. If this podcast has ever made you think deeper, shift something in your spirit or take bold bankable action in your business, would you do me a favor? Would you take a moment and scroll down and leave us a rating or review? Listen, that's how we grow this message and get it into the ears of more seven figure CEOs and seven figure CEOs in the making. Your words matter, your support matters. So please take a moment to go ahead, rate, review and then come right back because this episode is about to shift everything. Welcome back to another episode on the Move to Millions podcast. It's your girl, Dr. Darnyelle God Girl, eight figure entrepreneur and the award winning CEO of Incredible One Enterprises. Oh my gosh.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:02:29]:
I'm so excited. I have a powerful conversation with you today. Now listen, I don't know what took me so long to bring this amazing human on the podcast, especially because he's been my client since like 2019. But I finally have. Well, you know what, here's what I'm going to say. The reason we are having this conversation now is for such a time as this, many of you have experienced shifts and transformations. You feel left out there by yourself based on what is happening in the world in 2025. And as a Result of that, many things are in question.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:03:16]:
And my guest for you today is about to help you get the clarity that you are most needing in this season to keep pressing forward. Now, unless you just got here for the very first time, you already know that press is an acronym that we use around here. Persistently run. Expecting supernatural success. And this conversation today with my client and friend and colleague Marquel Russell is about to set the record straight. I'm calling this episode Pruning Season because of what he says, like literally maybe one of the first things out of his mouth. And it just really took on a life of its own. And as we anchored into it, it became a powerful convers that I know you need in this season.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:04:05]:
Marquel is an amazing human. He is an award winning Inc. 5000 CEO of a powerful company. He's been my client, like I said, since 2019. In his work, which is kind of elevated and transformed and morphed a smidge over the years. The core of what he does is connect entrepreneurs to the right systems to attract clients and scale without having to work in their business full time. And he'll even share with you how today he's running a company part time but is generating major full time seven figure income. I don't want to steal the thunder.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:04:50]:
I'm not even going to read his official bio. I'm going to let this conversation do the talking for Marquel. So grab your Move to Millions podcast notebook, your pen, your favorite beverage and maybe a tissue or two. And let's jump into my conversation with Marque Marquel. I don't know why it took me so long to get you here, but I am so excited to welcome you to the Move to Millions podcast. How are you today?

Marquel R [00:05:19]:
I am amazing. I'm excited to be him. I'm absolutely honored.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:05:23]:
You know why I think the time is now? Because I've watched. I mean, of course, you know, I know you and we go way back, like recliners. Back to what, 2018, 2019, I think is when.

Marquel R [00:05:36]:
Yeah, I think so. It's been that long. I think it's been about that long.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:05:38]:
It's been a. And I've watched an amazing evolution come over you. I think what I always tell people whenever I'm asked about Marquel and working with Marquel, I always say the thing that I enjoy the most about your journey is how you have just experienced. I'm gonna say it this way. Glory to glory. Like I've just watched you evolve and then evolve again and then evolve a Little bit more. And you are so humble and so open to whatever it is that might be served to you to help you to do and be better for yourself, for your family, for your, your king, your young kings, as you call them. So I'm excited for everything that this conversation is going to be.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:06:27]:
I want to give you the floor for just a moment to tell everybody who you are in your own words, whatever you would want them to know.

Marquel R [00:06:33]:
So I'm Marquel. I am. And it's interesting you mentioned that. Cause, like, one of the things I had noticed throughout this recent evolution, right, Is a lot of times when. And I think it's normal as well. Well, sometimes when I see, like whether that's on shows or whatever and somebody say, okay, who am I? So. And then a lot of times the default is like to go into all the things, right, all the titles. Like, I'm a dad, I'm a father, I'm a.

Marquel R [00:07:00]:
But it's like I've been really intentional about, like, what's my true identity? So when somebody asks Marquel, who are you? Like, at my essence, I'm a child of God, right? Father, husband, business, builder, CEO, all those alike titles. So I feel like I'm God's favorite, right?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:07:18]:
Oh, I could fight you for that.

Marquel R [00:07:20]:
Yeah, I'm like God's favorite.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:07:22]:
Unless you come on the Move to Millions my podcast telling people you God's favor. Like, who would I be? Look at me touching my invisible pearls.

Marquel R [00:07:30]:
But it's like, even with kids, right? It's like, even with kids. It's like one kid be like, I'm mom's favorite, and the other kid be like, no, I'm mom's favorite. So we can both be.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:07:37]:
We can both be his favorite, right? And isn't it amazing that when you build a relationship with God, he makes it so that you always feel like you're his favorite.

Marquel R [00:07:48]:
100%. 100%. 100%.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:07:51]:
Yeah.

Marquel R [00:07:51]:
So that's who I am. What I do part time. I help businesses grow and scale, create automated marketing systems and build companies that can run without them. And so that's what I do part time, full time, child of God, husband to this year, November will be 14 years. Wow. I'm married. We've been together almost 20. Married 14.

Marquel R [00:08:15]:
I have five amazing kids. Five. MJ will be 12 next week. Roro is 10. My oldest son is 21. Daughter is 23. And she has a son. So I also have a g son as well.

Marquel R [00:08:29]:
He's two.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:08:31]:
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Marquel R [00:09:29]:
Always loved entrepreneurship since a child when I didn't even have a word for it. And then I discovered that wow. This thing that I, this thing that I love is called entrepreneurship. Like taking something that's nothing and turn it into like money is entrepreneurship. I didn't really know that was a thing.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:09:45]:
So yeah, yeah, I love that. I love your definition of entrepreneurship. Taking something and turning it into money. I love that. You know me, I love having a conversation about money and if we can talk about God and money in the same conversation, oh, I'm down for that every single day. And I know your journey has been multifaceted. Right. And I know you openly share about your time in prison and how you came out, became this man that really was focused on leveraging the gifts and talents of entrepreneurship, but leveraging them in a way that would keep you free and not behind bars.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:10:23]:
Right. So I don't necessarily want to go into that part of the story. I know you talk about that a lot. I really want to talk about what I observed over the last nine to 12 months again. You know, we've known each other for a while. I've had the pleasure of being one of your coaches and mentors over the years and helping you as you've grown yourself, your business into multiple millions. I don't even wanna talk about that. Like we, they can go watch the docu series to learn that piece of it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:10:50]:
What I really wanna talk about today is something that I know I feel an increasing pull for the God in me to come out into the marketplace. And I feel like there, there are certainly more of us who are having the marketplace ministry conversation, but I don't think that there's enough of us who know how to put to voice to dispel the religious doctrine that keeps so many of us from experiencing the abundance that God designed us to have, and it's specifically through entrepreneurship. And I've noted. I mean, I know you're. You're preaching now. Like, I mean. I mean, I want to get into all of it, and I kind of want to go everywhere at once, but I know I'm not going to do that. I'm going to, like, pull back, but I want to first.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:11:37]:
I would love it if you walked us through your own journey of recognizing, and I'm going to use this word intentionally, the weight and the significance of deepening your connection, alignment, and relationship with the father and the role that that would play in all the titles that you hold, but especially in this realm of entrepreneurship.

Marquel R [00:12:04]:
Yeah. So I think. I think one of the biggest insights for me, I think over the past 12 months has been, so I've been a believer. Like, I. I didn't grow up in church. Like, my first remembrances of churches is like, when. I don't know if it was the same, you know, where you're from. But like, we used to have, like, the bus or like, the van that'd come to the neighborhood and, like, pick up the kids and, like, take the kids to, like, church.

Marquel R [00:12:27]:
You remember? Did you. Was it there? That is where.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:12:28]:
Yeah, we had that.

Marquel R [00:12:29]:
Yeah. So. And we used to only go because of the food, because it's like. Cause it'd be me and my homies. We outside, We. The van will come through. We'd be like, oh, let's go. They'll preach to us or whatever.

Marquel R [00:12:38]:
But we knew they're gonna have food. They just bring us back to the neighborhood. So that was my first, essentially, introduction to church. And then as I grew up, I kind of. I believe, you know, when I went to jail and stuff like that, I got introduced to. I think it's Matthew 6 and 33. Seek the first the kingdom of God. I was in my dorm and.

Marquel R [00:12:58]:
And I. I didn't have. I didn't really do, like, a long prison stint. I was like. Used to go to jail. Like, local jail was several times or whatever. But one time I was in there, we had an open dorm, and this dude named Bruce, he was having. He used to do a Bible study.

Marquel R [00:13:10]:
You know, I'm in there, I'm like, I don't got nothing else to do. Let me go down here and see what's going on, because I'm a believer. But it's like, at least you know I'm a believer, right? So I go down there, he does the Bible study, and I was seek thee first. The Kingdom of God, you know, and all these things will be added. So that was. That was like a seed. That was. That's been my favorite scripture ever since then.

Marquel R [00:13:26]:
Now, fast forward. My mom end up getting remarried to my sister's dad, and then we end up going back to church. And Now I'm like, 16 or whatever, so I'm like, oh, now we're going to church and all that. And then we went. And then the pastor, they did a line, so they were like, hey, people gonna give a hundred dollars, get in this line. People gonna do a thousand, get in this line. People do this 500. And I'm a math guy, so I'm adding all this up.

Marquel R [00:13:50]:
I'm like, whoa. And then I hear the first lady say, I thought this was ties, not tips, almost saying they weren't giving enough. And I was like, wow. So that really rubbed me the wrong way with church. And when we left, I asked my mom, and I was like, hey, y' all didn't hear that. And everybody act like they didn't hear it. So fast forward. I got into network marketing, and network marketing led me to personal development.

Marquel R [00:14:11]:
Personal development led me to Dr. Miles Monroe. And Dr. Miles Monroe is who got me back into the work because he really made it simple. And he showed me that you can be a man of God and you can be wealthy as well, and you can do business and all the things. And he made it very simple for me. That led to one of my homies I went to school with invited me to church. He was going to Bishop Bronner's church, Word of Faith.

Marquel R [00:14:33]:
So that got me back into church and so forth and so on. Fast forward, though, to the last 12 months. One of the things I realized, because we had grown businesses made multiple millions, you know, all the things. Inc. 5000, everything I had on my vision board, house, built, car, all the things, right? But I didn't realize that no matter how big of. We had to build the team at one point to, like, 40 some people was like, I didn't. Bigger events, all the things that I thought I was supposed to do, but I didn't realize that all out of. I was doing all those things and accomplishing all those things.

Marquel R [00:15:07]:
But it was from a place of, like, anxiousness. It was a place of, like, anxiousness. Scarcity, lack. I heard Will Smith put it this way. He was like, when you seemingly come from nothing, your whole life is about chasing this thing, and you accomplish the thing, and then the rest of your life is about protecting the thing, because now you Got a fear of, like, losing it. And I was like, man, I see how that played out for me. And then what I realized, kind of we went through like a. I wasn't used to.

Marquel R [00:15:35]:
Cause we had years of, like, back to back growth, back to back growth, back to back growth, crazy growth. And then we went through, like a pruning season, which I didn't realize was, like, part of the process because we hadn't experienced it just yet. And through that, it made me realize that, yes, I believed in God, but I didn't trust God. Which is. All right, Right. Which is a difference, right?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:15:59]:
Oh, it's a difference. Okay, so let's put a pin. Okay. Okay, you can finish. Because I want. I want to go down this path and I want to have you, from your recollection tell us the difference from believing in God and actually trusting God 100%.

Marquel R [00:16:15]:
Because it's like, it's easy to, like, believe in God and trust God and all that when things are up, right? So. But it's like when the numbers ain't. You ain't hitting the numbers that you feel like you need to hit, or things are getting a little tight and there's a transition in the marketplace and, you know, things just ain't looking like what you want them. Look, it was all good at one point, but when you like, okay, this thing ain't happened. This ain't happening. I expected this. The bank account ain't looking this way. When you kind of go through those transitional periods, right? And if you in business long enough, you're going to go through those transitional periods.

Marquel R [00:16:44]:
And in those specific times, I. There was times where I kind of felt like shaking a little bit. Like, I was. I mean, I was like, okay, what's happening here? You know what I'm saying? And I started hearing, like, different stuff, and I started letting some of that stuff seep in. And then the fact that going through this pruning season made me feel a different type of way. Or the number is not doing the numbers that I wanted to do at certain points, it really showed me how much I was trusting in money and not trusting God.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:17:13]:
Oh, this is good.

Marquel R [00:17:14]:
And in reality, you begin to realize that if you trust anything over God, that means that thing is your God. But a lot of times we ain't gonna be honest and be like, dang, for this season, money was my God. Yeah, I believed. But as long as things were looking like how they supposed to look. But what do I really. Who do I really trust?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:17:36]:
Yeah. Oh, that's so Good. The scripture that just popped into my head is one in this season I am using a lot, which is Romans 8 and 31. If God be for you, who can be against you? And I find myself as I'm talking to clients, I mean like let's, let's for a moment, let's just talk about the market, right? We are not in the COVID19 growth market anymore, right. It's sparse out here in these streets. Money is still being spent, money is still moving. But the people who are the purveyors of the money are making decisions differently. They're more discerning, they're more strategic.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:18:09]:
And it is often taken longer to get to the point where they're going to be willing to pay those high ticket, high end pricing that you might have been used to and gotten spoiled by in COVID 19. And if you're not a real one, you're not a real business owner. If you are a fly by the seat of your pants. I just figured out how to hustle, hoodwink and bamboozle people. I figured out how to say the right words with my marketing so I could get a whole bunch of people to decide that they wanted to give me their money. Like that day is over.

Marquel R [00:18:40]:
Yeah, for sure.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:18:40]:
And so today, because the buyer is more discerning and they are being much more conscious. Like business has changed, right? And if you are a person who doesn't, who doesn't that God doesn't live in you and it is like not indoctrinated in your being and you will falter and you will question and you will be anxious. I know the Bible says be anxious for nothing and in all things through prayer and supplication, make your requests known unto the Lord. Like I know that's what the word says, but very few people actually understand that. And I'm going to be real transparent. I haven't even said this to, to our listeners yet. We are also, we're in a pruning season and a purposeful pruning. And I think, I think pruning should always be purposeful.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:19:28]:
But sometimes it is a warning before the destruction. If you really understand that if you are not focused in the right way, if you're not operating in the alignment and integrity of a relationship with God, that those things that used to come easy will cease to come easy. And hopefully it will be an opportunity for you to see that you need to make a powerful shift, right? And our pruning is not as a result of not making a shift. Because I've Always been a girl who I trust God. I make decisions completely in faith and not operating in any fear at all times. Even right now where we are in our business. I'm building a leadership team. So I'm hiring three team members that are going to.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:20:16]:
Starting salaries are going to be six figures. And I'm doing this in a year that is going to be a relatively flat year for our company. And I'm doing it because this is the time that God decided that it needed to be done in order for me to get back out there the way that he has designed me to get back out there. And I had a conversation with a couple of colleagues who basically were like, Darnyelle, you're crazy. You're crazy to be spending that kind of money in this market. And maybe if I didn't trust God, I might be crazy, but because I know who I am. I know whose I am. I know whose business this is.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:21:01]:
This is. This is nothing. So I. And I know that you are in the same place, right? 100% in terms of your walk and your understanding of what's going on. And you're a real one, right when it comes to business, when we. We've been around long enough. I just celebrated 17 years from the day I made the first dime in the name of Incredible One Enterprises. So I'm not new to this, y'.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:21:22]:
All. I am true to this. I've been here, done that, got all the T shirts, and we see people who, who come in and come out all the time. My estimation, and I want to get your opinion on this, Marquel, is that the ones who linger, the ones who stay, the ones who evolve, the ones who understand the significance of the first mandate, which is to be fruitful and multiply, are the ones whose trust is not rickety, that is not based on any of the external things that are happening out there. Hey, I hate to interrupt the goodness that's happening right now in this episode, but I need you to do me a quick favor. If this episode is blessing your life and business right now, will you take a few moments and rate and review the show? Your words help more millions minded entrepreneurs find us and step into their next level. All right, thank you so much. Let's get back into the conversation because we're just getting started.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:22:22]:
Tell us a little bit more about your journey because I did just kind of cut you off so we could talk about the difference between believing in God and trusting God.

Marquel R [00:22:30]:
That was good.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:22:31]:
Talk a little bit more about your journey of getting to the place where now you refuse to allow what you see to hinder what it is you know to be true so that you can make decisions and moves that are always gonna be in alignment with God's timing for you. And your business is always going to win 100%.

Marquel R [00:22:53]:
And I think just to add to what you said, like, even the Bible says God prunes what's fruitful so you can continue to produce fruit. So it's like, when you go through a pruning season, your human side can be like, dang, why am I going through this pruning season? But it's like, you're going through a pruning season because you're fruitful. So God had you, has to. You have to prune so you can continue to be fruitful. So that was just like, a realization that I had to have during the time. And, you know, God reminds you, like, hey, like, so I just. You mentioned me doing the teaching the Word at church. Like, my pastors is, like, pulling me more and more to it.

Marquel R [00:23:25]:
So I just. I just wrapped up this series, and we're talking about Moses, right? And Moses, there's instances where he's like, even when he was like, he's gonna send the quail and Moses, like, like, how are you gonna do all that? Like, even if we did, like, how's it gonna be enough? And God is kind of like, bro, I got receipts. Like, you don't remember all this stuff. You don't remember all this stuff that, like, you. So God will sometimes be like, all right, Marque. Like, bro, you don't. Like, you dropped. Bro, you dropped outta high school in 10th grade.

Marquel R [00:23:51]:
Like, your auntie raised you up until third grade. She was a crackhead. You survived that. Like, you didn't survive that by mistake. You dropped out of high school and thrived. You did club promotions. You thrived. You sold drugs.

Marquel R [00:24:00]:
You thrived. You, you, you all. A lot of your homies who you grew up with in prison, dead in the feds, like, you're here. Like, what you. Like what you what. What you do? Marquel, as a profession doesn't even make sense. Like, in this space, when I look at my colleagues, it's like, it don't. So, like, even when I tell people my story, it's like, it don't even make sense to them, and it doesn't make sense.

Marquel R [00:24:23]:
So God just reminds me of that. And I had to. That's what led me to, like, go deeper in the Word and really begin to understand and unpack and my. My Word for the last Two years has been surrender. So it's like. Cause even during the pruning season, I'm a builder. I am a. If I need to make it happen, I'll make it happen.

Marquel R [00:24:44]:
Whatever we need to do. But I had to realize that that was me heavily in self reliance. And during that pruning season, it's like, yeah, bro, that worked and that served you for a season. But, like, now you got to surrender to this process. So one day I was walking up my stairs, coming up to my office, and I heard the Holy Spirit say, you are in your butterfly season. So I was like, what does that mean? So I had to go Google it, and I kind of did some work on it, and it showed me that a caterpillar. When you're in the caterpillar season, you're on the ground, you're grinding. It's a whole bunch of effort to go from here to here as a caterpillar.

Marquel R [00:25:21]:
So you're doing all the things, and then you go to your. Your metamorphosis stage when you go into the cocoon. So in the cocoon stage, it's no movement. It feels like regression. You're closed off. It feels that when I was like, I can definitely remember that season. And then the butterfly season is like, you're flowing with the spirit. You can go from here to here with ease.

Marquel R [00:25:45]:
You're more graceful. You talk about it like building from grace and ease, right? So you move from that place of, like, grace, ease, flowing in spirit, less effort, less this. And I was like, oh, that made sense. So. And speaking of that, one of the things I discovered during this time is like, I actually do hear from the Holy Spirit, right? I actually do hear because I've heard people say, with the Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit told me that. Well, God told me this, and I used to hear it, and I used to be like, okay. But I never felt like some people I know is genuine, but sometimes I feel like I don't know, right? But then I started hearing from myself, and I was like, oh, this is making sense. And my pastor was like, hey, hey, you gonna do Sunday? And I'm like, what? And because my identity was, I'm a business guy.

Marquel R [00:26:32]:
Yeah, I do business. I speak on business. I'm like, y' all need me to speak on business? All this, like, I'm your man. But then God showed me, no, bro, like, the marketplace is just part of your ministry. It's not the ministry. It's just part of it. And I've helped you build this platform. Not for you, not for your glory, not for the accolades.

Marquel R [00:26:52]:
It's to give me glory, right? And to expand the kingdom of God. And you're just helping expand the kingdom of God through the marketplace, right?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:27:00]:
And it's. I mean, it's. I think about this, the psalm, scripture, the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, right? And so everything, everything we do, if we have made the decision to be in relationship and alignment with the Father, is for the furthering of his goals and initiatives, right? And we call that collectively the kingdom. And I think that it's. And I think it's so important. Like, I started doing this work in 2013. I was at one of my live events, and I woke up early in the morning. And, you know, some of the listeners of the show have heard this story a million times, and they're just gonna hear it again.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:27:36]:
Cause I don't think you've heard this story. And so I woke up in the middle of. No, not in the middle of the night. Like maybe 4:30am the event was starting at 8am and I heard the Holy Spirit say, go downstairs. And so I got up, got dressed, and I went downstairs to the meeting room. And once I got in the meeting room, this was actually the very first time ever that I anointed. I don't travel without my prayer shawl and my oil. And so I, of course, took those things with me and I anointed every seat, and I was speaking over every seat.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:28:08]:
Was third day of the event. So the event hadn't just started. Now I do it before the event starts. But anyway, and I'm in the room and the door flings open and I'm like, who in the world will be coming in here this time? And it's an attendee. An attendee who just so happened to have registered for the event the day before the event started. And she walks in and she says, darnielle, I have a word for you from the Lord. God told me to register for this event. I'm not an entrepreneur.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:28:33]:
I don't have my own business. And I've been wondering the whole time I've been here, why am I here? And the Holy Spirit told her to tell me that if I. Because I had been wrestling with my faith and me bringing my faith more to the forefront, if I would take a bold stand for him, then he would make it easy for me. And that was like the beginning of this work that we do. And it's, you know, it's. It's an evolution, right? It's Constantly evolving, but integrating these spiritual principles in. And I do specifically say spiritual principles. Not Christian, not biblical.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:29:12]:
Because I am not called to Christians and I am not called to only purveyors of the Bible.

Marquel R [00:29:17]:
Right.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:29:18]:
I am called to bring people into a knowing and alignment with God because there is only one. And I know I'm not saying this to you. I'm saying this for them. There is only one true and living. Only one.

Marquel R [00:29:30]:
Right.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:29:31]:
And so. And I'm very clear because so many people have tried to compartmentalize me and make me for Christians. Right. And I'm like, well, first of all, like, where did Christianity even come from? Should we talk about the fact that the very first time it was spoken, it was spoken kind of as a dig. Like it wasn't even a real bonafide respectful thing. It was like, kind of like a slight. And then we just kind of ran with it as a people, because we. Anyway, I'm not going to send us down that diet tribe unless you want us to go there, because I know have feelings about that too.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:30:05]:
But I. I just. I just know that trying to do anything absent from your creator is a cruisin for a bruising. Like, I don't even know how else to say. I mean, you can, you can try it and you will experience some success that will make you think that you get to be in control.

Marquel R [00:30:24]:
Yeah.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:30:25]:
But eventually the bottom is gonna fall out on your lever and you're gonna have to surrender this episode. At the time of this recording, the week on this podcast. The episode is surrender is the strategy. We're in a series on soul leadership. And so we're talking about surrender this week. And I'm finally. You will be happy to hear this. I'm finally starting my Bible study now.

Marquel R [00:30:50]:
I love it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:30:50]:
Don't judge me, Marquel. God told me to start my Bible study five years ago.

Marquel R [00:30:54]:
Love it. I love it. I love it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:30:56]:
I'm finally starting it. The first. The first session in this business in the Bible. So I'm, you know, very clear what my mandate is and the work that I'm supposed to do. You talked about Moses. I have the Moses anointing on my life. My bloodline has the Moses anointing. Anointing, which I think is amazing as you have shifted more into, I think, again, I agree.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:31:19]:
And knowing you, you've always been a God guy is how I would refer to you. But now I'm seeing your Godness come more out into your marketing. I would love for you to share. I feel like there's somebody listening right now who also has a massive call on their life, but is. Is torn with what they believe. For the people who might feel, they might feel they might offend or, or any of that excuses that we make that stops us from really living into the mandate. Like, what was it for you that made you finally say, you know what? Enough already. I'm gonna take this word and I'm gonna parlay this word into lessons that relate to business so that the people I'm called to can understand that none of this game is really gonna work unless God is part of it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:32:09]:
Like, unless Jesus is up in and through everything that you're doing. Like, what was the defining moment when you just finally said, okay, let's let it all hang out and let's bring the two worlds together. You know, forget Fannie Lou Hamer. We are, we are not gonna separate church and state. We are gonna bring them together and we're gonna do em in a way that shows people that this is the way to get what they want inside of their business.

Marquel R [00:32:33]:
Yeah. So I think so one thing for me, as I was kind of going through my pruning season, right. It felt like I was really in this place where I couldn't. So I may. I'm a. I'm more of an internal processor, right. So I can. I'm an internal processor and I can write, right.

Marquel R [00:32:50]:
I'm not as much of a this. For people who kind of see me on stages and stuff like that, they might be like, right. But it's like, it's typically, I can write. So even my wife, she'll be like, you'll write this whole long thing on Facebook. But it's like, you won't really talk or you will send me these long texts, but you won't really. And that's something. I'm kind of working through it there, but by default it's like an internal processor. So as I was like processing this whole season I was going through, I kind of was going to this place where I felt like I was going to kind of explode, kind of.

Marquel R [00:33:19]:
Because there was just so much going on. I was having so many realizations. So I started making these Facebook posts and they were essentially journal entries that I was stuff I was just processing and then I was just getting out. And people was like, man, this is the type of stuff we need to hear from you. Especially since you've been doing this so long. Cause a lot of times in entrepreneurship the narrative is, yeah, I had some challenges. And then once I discovered this, everything Took off. And I've never had a challenge ever since then.

Marquel R [00:33:49]:
And it's just such a false narrative. So it's like, I gotta. So I was like, this is the stuff that isn't talked about. And as I started kind of going through that phase, I started seeing other individuals kind of experiencing similar things. I know we talked about it. I had some other people we talked about. So I was like, this stuff needs to be talked about. And individuals would ask, like, well, how do you tie the both in? I'm like, well, business is very spiritual.

Marquel R [00:34:13]:
Like I talked about earlier, entrepreneurship is taking something. Oh, spiritual doesn't exist. And you turning it into something like, business is spiritual, but. But we try to break it up, right? So my boy Julian asked me one day. He was like, hey. He was like, how do you balance out your spiritual content and your business content? He was like, are you just like, one spiritual, one business, one spiritual, one business? And I'm like, no. I'm like, they're the same. It's not one of the one or the other.

Marquel R [00:34:39]:
And then if I can't talk about business, this. My success in business has been just. Just for me knowing ads or me knowing how to sell, it's like, nah, it's God. The foundation is also my wife. Like, if not for my wife, I can't say that I would be as focused as I am. My kids obviously also give me balance. So it's all of that that ties into this whole, like, gumbo of sorts. So me just tying that all together and just kind of speaking more about it and just kind of show, like, here's the stuff that I'm processing here, stuff that I'm going through.

Marquel R [00:35:16]:
And it's like, yeah, I've accomplished all the things, all the things that I ever wanted to accomplish, Travel, all the things. But it's like I was listening to some other Day, and dude was like, well, this show is for you if you're at the beginning or if you've reached the top. And I was just like, the top. I'm like, if it's external, and I realize this during this permanent season, if it's external that we're trying to get, it's never a top. Cause there's always another level. It's always another revenue level. It's always another car. It's always another crib.

Marquel R [00:35:47]:
It's always another accolade, another award, another stage. So it's never a top. So I think the top is, like, when you transcend the external stuff, and then you. I mean, you I think you nailed it when you said surrender is the strategy, like, cause I'm, I used to operate from a place of like control, closed hand. I need to hit this goal in this particular time frame. If not, I'll feel away. I need to check off all these things every day. But now I'm operating from a place of like open handedness.

Marquel R [00:36:17]:
Open handedness. Like, yeah, this is what we're working towards. But I don't necessarily need to do 30 days. I don't necessarily need to do it. 90 days. I don't necessarily need to do it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:36:24]:
How do we get there?

Marquel R [00:36:25]:
How do we get there?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:36:26]:
Right, Like I know where we're going because you've already planted in me the vision and I know that because you gave me the vision, you've already made provision. I also know that my ways are not your ways and your ways are higher than my ways. So if I just detach from the outcome and I just let you work, you gonna work that thing out and it's gonna be way better than I could have came up with on my own. If I tried to challenge and manipulate and make it what I wanted it to be when I wanted it to be that.

Marquel R [00:36:56]:
Bingo.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:36:57]:
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Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:37:52]:
If you are a millions minded entrepreneur who wants to go from millions on your mind to millions in your bank account, then we should spend more time together. Get all the details you need to join us in our free Facebook community at Move to Millions group. If we could get everybody, every entrepreneur. I think about people who come and work with us in our programs and many of them come in like this and they even get discouraged when they stay like this. And at the end of the cycle of the enrollment, they haven't hit the milestone. And I'm like, but you didn't. Because you didn't show up for everything. Like, I do this call, Marquel.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:38:32]:
I just started it in December because I recognized that our. A lot of our clients, the. The amount of inner work that needs to be done. Like my program, we do some of it, but we don't get to spend as much time and energy as we want. I have a new program that I'm launching later this year. It's called Sanctuary, and it's gonna be all of that inner work. But anyway, I started this call with clients back in December where we literally every single day, Monday through Friday, we meet for prayer and for Tapping Emotional Freedom technique in an effort to regulate their nervous system to be able to use what God has given us, to actually be able to move without anxiety and without overwhelm through the day. And what I've watched happen for these clients that show up, it transcends the financial.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:39:25]:
I mean, they're. They're blowing the markers away, but it transcends it because they're staying in alignment and in an energy, to use your analogy earlier of the butterfly, the flow. They're getting to stay in the flow because where every single day we're priming the pump to keep them centered and focused on what God has for them in that season. And it's. It's been a game changer. It's the reason why when the book, you know, my book came out at the end of 2023, but at the top of the year, I immediately changed the methodology and expanded it and broke out Success Mindset into three separate pillars. Soul Leadership is a pillar now so that we could talk about all of this internal work, because everybody has a strategy. You can do webinars, you can do challenges, you can do live events, you can get booked on stages.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:40:19]:
You can do all. Any and all the things work. So it can't be strategy that only. Depending upon what statistics you're looking at, 4.2 to less than 1% of the population is making seven figures and actually profitable. It can't be strategy. It's gotta be something else.

Marquel R [00:40:38]:
100%. 100%. I mean, you, I mean, spot on. It's, It's, It's. It's the stuff that we don't. And it's, It's. It's literally like. And then I again, when it goes to the deeper work you mentioned.

Marquel R [00:40:49]:
Cause I know we talked about a lot of this as well. It's like you start Realizing, like, a lot we're. We're chasing these goals to, like, feel some type of void, right? Or some kind of wound where you want to be. I want to be seen. I've never been seen growing up. And I feel like if I make enough money, if I drive this, I'll then be seen or I'll be validated, or I'll be worthy once I do this, or. And it's like some of that stuff is, like, from a childhood. Like, I didn't feel worthy growing up, or somebody told me I wasn't worthy.

Marquel R [00:41:16]:
Somebody told me I wasn't valuable. And so we're seeking affirmation. And then we're 30, 40, 50, and we're like on social media, building these businesses just for affirmation. And then we hit these levels and then you get the things and it's like it still feel empty. And it's like the only feeling is going to be Jesus, but it's like we run from that. So I'm like, yeah, I get that, but I still need to hit these specific things. And then you realize those things aren't going to do it. And doing that.

Marquel R [00:41:44]:
And I saw the last series I did was called are you selling for salvation? And one of the things I got into, I discovered throughout this time, I was like, because people try to make the Bible seem like it's just like this religious book, right? And then I realized that, huh, God. So because it's like, okay, people talk about purpose. What's my purpose? What's my purpose? And a lot of times people are thinking like, well, my purpose is to build businesses. Or my purpose is to do this, whatever the case may be. And people, I'm gonna show you how to get your purpose. But then we leave out God. So what I discovered for me personally is that, all right, what's God's purpose? So God's purpose to expand this heavenly realm into the physical earthly realm. And then he created us and sent us from heaven.

Marquel R [00:42:20]:
Because, like, sometimes in religion they tell you, well, the main goal is to get to heaven, where the reality is we came from heaven. So God sends us from heaven to expand on mission. Because like you mentioned it, provision. So if he sends us here on a mission, he already sent the provision. And in our purpose is to help him fulfill his purpose.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:42:39]:
Correct?

Marquel R [00:42:39]:
But some. But in that we get caught up in our purpose. It's like, no, I want to drive that. I want to do this and I want to do that. But it's like if we stay in alignment, all the Things that we want kind of align. But to your point, it's like we'll get close fisted and it's like it has to happen this way and it has to happen in this time. And you mentioned the Kairos. It's like a lot of times we'll, we like it gotta happen in a year, but it's like, why does it actually gotta happen in a year? Because somebody else said, well I gotta make eight figures.

Marquel R [00:43:08]:
And it's like, well, just because somebody else said it. But so now you're seven feels significant or now your six figures feel significant because somebody said they make six figures a month. And it's all just comes from these internal childhood wounds. And we just haven't done that work. And we think that making enough money or reading the mindset book or doing affirmations and all that type of stuff, it's like, yeah, that's cool. But if you avoid the deeper inner work, you're still gonna miss it and wonder like, dang, why do I still feel so unfulfilled? Why do I feel so empty? Why am I so anxious even though I got more money in my bank account than I ever had? Why do I feel so stressful and doubtful? And it's very, very, very. It's a very fascinating journey for sure. But I think it's very necessary also for some people.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:43:53]:
Absolutely.

Marquel R [00:43:54]:
Depends on the color.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:43:55]:
Yeah, I definitely agree. I know personally and I, I know I told you this when we were on a voxer. I went to Sedona in March. I literally woke up one day, early March. Cause I like literally booked the trip right away. And I heard as I was waking up, I heard the Holy Spirit say, come spend time with me. And I had enough foresight in that moment to say where? Because of course I can spend time with God anywhere, right? But I knew there was a knowing in my knower. Like he was not telling me to drop down to my knees as I got out of my bed and spend time with him.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:44:29]:
And he told, he told me Sedona. And I had heard of Sedona, right, it's in Arizona. But I had never, I didn't go to Google, like, what is Sedona? But anyway, at that point I did. I was like, what in the world is it about Sedona? Well, there are apparently five highly spiritual centers in the world, and Sedona is number two out of five. The way that the energy and the spirit moves in the red rocks. I don't even know if I can give you words for it. Marquel. Like literally, I got on a plane, I drove to Phoenix.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:45:06]:
I mean, I flew to Phoenix, I got a rental car, I drove to Sedona. As I was coming into the city limits with my windows down, I could feel the energy and the vibration. I could feel, I could feel the presence so much stronger than I've had in many other places. Like, so. So I believe that it's real. And the whole town, it's. It's small, it's like a couple of lights. And there are, you know, various practitioners there that do lots of different things.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:45:35]:
Well, I went because this was on the heels of the betrayal that happened in my company. I don't want to talk about it on the podcast, but I know I told you about that offline. And I just felt I had been praying to God, God, show me who is part of my next level. And when this particular person was exposed, I felt some kind of way because I'm like, what are you talking about? But I did pray for it, right? But anyway, and I knew I needed to go and I needed to clear the remnants. I knew I had done a lot of work, a lot of work on my consciousness and my belief and my abundance quotient. I had done a lot of work, but I knew that there were still some limits, there were still some remnants, and I needed to get all of them. Because something big was about to happen. Like God told me at the end of 2024, like, you're coming into a season of something big.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:46:28]:
And right now we're pruning, we're clearing the space to create the opening for what is coming. And so when I went to Sedona, the work that I did, I said all of that long and drawn out to say what you just said a minute ago. The practitioners that I met with helped me to first identify my core wounds and the subliminal subconscious traumas that even though I am a woman worth multiple eight figures, I still have. And all the times that I went looking for validation in places other than the Father and the Son, and in that space, the healing that ensued, I got to heal my inner child. I got to meet little Darnyelle, like that I had abandoned at 8 when my mom went to jail. I met her again at 49 years old and got to say things to her that made her whole so that my 49 year old version of myself can continue to evolve into the next level being that God designed me to be for such a time as this. And so I said all of that to say, like, you are exactly right. Like, and whether you go to Sedona or not, I mean, there are practitioners that can help you do this work everywhere.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:47:49]:
You and Jesus alone cannot do this work, though, because a lot of times Christians will think, no, I'm just going to pray on it. No, you're going to need somebody who has the skill sets to get you out of your own way, to support you, to experience the breakthroughs that are necessary. Yes, Jesus can facilitate the opening, but to clear the decks in a way that it is purposeful and productive so that as you are restored, these remnants are no longer there. You're gonna need practitioners that have been trained to do this work to support you. And that was for anybody who just said, I'm gonna pray on it as you're listening to this episode. And it was a game changer. It's the reason why, when I went to Thailand, I got to hear God as clearly as I heard him, because I had changed my environment entirely. I knew God needed to speak to me.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:48:41]:
And the things he needed to say, he wouldn't. He could not say them in Newark, Delaware. I needed to completely get out of any familiar setting to be able to hear him and to be willing to keep my hands open as I heard him, instead of immediately trying to figure out how to manipulate the data to make it bend to my will, but to allow his will to take shape.

Marquel R [00:49:09]:
Right.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:49:10]:
So it is important for those of you who are listening and wondering and questioning. It is important. And so I'm going to ask you, Marquel, like, I agree, strategy is the strategy from your vantage point. What are two to three things that, if you want to begin to unearth your ability to surrender, tactical and practical for the overthinker that is not going to just immediately, in trust of God, open their hands. Like, what could you say tactically and practically for those people who are listening right now who would like a pathway to help them to begin to surrender?

Marquel R [00:49:50]:
For sure. So it's interesting. So we just did an event last week, and we was digging into this. So the one. So one thing I always advise. Cause somebody asked me a very similar question, and I was like, all right, well, first and foremost, like, what do you start with being right? Because we've also we've heard be, do, have. Some people listen. Most people listen probably heard be, do, have.

Marquel R [00:50:12]:
What does that mean, though, right? So it's like. Because sometimes we think we gotta have the things to do the things to be the things, or sometimes we think we gotta do to have to be right. So it's like actually being. So what is our being? So it's like, yeah, you want to build a million dollar business, for example. That's like doing. No, but like, where are you, where are you being from? So I mean, so make it super practical. So what is your true identity? So what I typically tell people is like, it depends on your filter of truth, right? So my filter of truth is the Bible, right? And what does God say about me? If that's not your filter of truth, you got to lean into what's your filter of truth and what does your filter of truth say about you and your true identity? So my filter of truth says my true identity is a child of God, right? So and I, and I use. To make it super practical is I use my children.

Marquel R [00:51:06]:
So when my children get home and they walk in and they flick the lights, like kids just trust, right? They come in, they expect the lights to be on. They expect food to be in the fridge, they expect water to turn on when they turn the faucet. Like, they're not tossing and turning at night. They're not worrying. They know they do have a part to do. Like, they didn't clear up their room. They need to do like the basic stuff, but it's not up to them to provide and protect, so to speak, right? So it's like, as a child of God, if we believe that we are truly children of God and God is telling us, all we gotta do is cast our cares on him. He's gonna provide.

Marquel R [00:51:46]:
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want, right? A lot of times we can we recite all those things, but it's just intellectually like, do we really trust God? So it's like, if I believe God is my Father, I'm God's child. Yes, there is stuff for me to do that's in alignment, but I'm not doing these things to get. I'm operating from that place of being. So if my goal is, okay, I want to make a million dollars a month or for whatever, right? Or a million dollars or whatever the arbitrary thing is, right? It's like, why do I want to do that? Am I operating from a place of being or am I operating from a place of. I need to do these things to get certain affirmation. So I think one of the things I love about Jesus is that Jesus operated from affirmation. He didn't operate for affirmation. God already said, I'm pleased with you.

Marquel R [00:52:31]:
This is my son who I'm pleased with all that different type of stuff. It's like sometimes we're not. And we're like, we. God is just as pleased with us as he was with Jesus, right? He's with Jesus. So it's like us operating from that place. So now I used to operate from a place of doing. I need to do this, I need to do this, I need to do this because I was like seeking something. I was trying to build a family within team members and I was trying to build family within clients and build family in all different, different type of ways because I didn't necessarily have a tight knit family growing up, right? So now it's like if I'm.

Marquel R [00:53:02]:
I was operating subconsciously for love, for affirmation, for worthiness, for validation. But as a child of God, I already got all those things. I'm already worthy, I'm already validated, I'm already, you know, successful. I'm already all the things. So if I operate from that being, I'm not doing anything from a business standpoint. I'm not trying to have anything to get those things. So I already got them. So therefore I tap into the peace that God already gave me and now I can operate and I can build from this place of peace.

Marquel R [00:53:36]:
So I think making it super practical. Get it? What is your true identity? Right? My true identity is a child of God. So I operate from that place. So I ain't waking up in the morning rushing like I used. I used to wake up in the morning and it'd be like a gun went off, like.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:53:52]:
Yeah.

Marquel R [00:53:53]:
And I jump out of bed, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. But now I don't wake up. I wake you remember I used to get up sometimes at 4 o', clock, you know?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:54:00]:
Yes, I do.

Marquel R [00:54:01]:
He's gonna be like, you come at.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:54:02]:
8 o' clock with me at 4 o' clock in the morning.

Marquel R [00:54:04]:
Yeah, you, you already know. I used to get up super early, but now I get up when my body, 6am right? I might don't get out of bed till 7. I might sit there and read the Bible or go through some stuff. And I'm just so I'm prioritizing slower mornings because I'm not in a rush, I'm not anxious, I'm not into those things. So I can operate from a totally different place. So I can show up, you know, completely different as well. Does it, does that make sense?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:54:27]:
That makes perfect sense. And I just want to add a little bit to it, right? And I'm, I'm going to give, I use this scripture all the time. On the. On the show first or Genesis 1 and 28. Right. So after God said, let us make man in our image and likeness. Let's give him power, authority, and dominion over all the things. He gave the first command before there was even an Adam or an Eve, which is to be fruitful and multiplied the being.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:54:50]:
Just because you were created in God's image and likeness and you were given power, authority, and dominion, you be to be. Most of us were not raised in environments where our being was okay? It wasn't a safe place or space. And that is how we became doers.

Marquel R [00:55:11]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:55:13]:
We were crazy, right? We were created as the being that had power, authority, and dominion. So if we can return to that, if we can return to the knowing of our original purpose. So you said earlier, what is our purpose? Our purpose is to be fruitful and multiply. Because if we are fruitful, then we will multiply the kingdom. Our fruit will produce more fruit. Right. We internalize it as sex for Adam and Eve to procreate the earth. But.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:55:47]:
No, but being is the only ingredient. Ingredient to multiply. The only thing that needs to be present that you be. And so you do have to, as my nanny used to say, get somewhere and sit down and think about who you be. And sometimes it starts retrospectively. Right. Who am I being right now? I'm being arrogant, I'm being unhelpful, I'm being indignant, I'm being offensive. Right.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:56:16]:
Any of those things we are being when we are presented with a situation and we have to react and respond. And so sometimes we have to retrospectively look at who we've been and then decide to be the opposite. The version of ourselves that actually can bear fruit because we cannot get fruit. And if we believe that God is who he says he is and his mandate for us is a. Is abundance like he said it is. And we ask ourselves, like, I wear this. What would abundance do bracelets now. Wear it as a reminder in the moments when my humanity wants to default to the scarcity and lack that I was born and raised in.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:56:58]:
In those moments, I look at my bracelet and I said, oh, yeah, no, abundance wouldn't do that. Abundance would do this. And I do. I do that instead. And so I think it is important to just. To just know that. That you don't have to do anything to be.

Marquel R [00:57:15]:
Yep.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:57:16]:
You just have to take ownership of your. Of your being.

Marquel R [00:57:20]:
I agree.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:57:20]:
Good, bad, or indifferent. Right. And only you have the power to make the decision to change what. What you've been into. Who you desire to be. So I think that that is. Is powerful and practical, and for some of y', all, you're going to get lost in it. But I just want you to, you know, keep coming back here because I have lots of episodes and conversations about being.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:57:39]:
Also, I. I said it a little bit earlier really, really quickly. I'm launching new program this fall which is called Sanctuary, which I cannot wait for the world to have access to this amazing container of support, to be abundance and overflow, to learn how to shift your relationship with yourself, with wealth, with money and success. Because until those things are your sanctuary, you're not going to be able to make the move to millions. So stay tuned for that. Anything else practically outside of looking at who you have been and becoming who is required in order to access the things that you most desire.

Marquel R [00:58:21]:
Yeah, I think the biggest thing is, for me is just. I think the biggest question is like, who am I being. Who am I being right now? I think you nailed it. Am I being present or am I. Am I thinking about tomorrow? Or am I thinking about later? Or am I thinking about the first? Or am I thinking about this goal? Or who am I being. Am I being present right now? Or am I scrolling my phone because I don't want to sit with my thoughts, Right? But, like, who am I being. Who am I being right now? Am I being anxious? Am I being stressed? Am I being angry?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:58:51]:
Am I being lack?

Marquel R [00:58:53]:
Am I being lack? Right? So I think that's super. And then it's like getting back in alignment, right? So I was listening to Pastor Dollard a couple days ago, and he was like, when you go through the storm, the storm can sometimes knock your antenna off. Like, if you. He was using, like, the analogy of, like, on the top of the tv. I mean, that's on top of tv on the top of your house. Like, people who stick out, like, satellite dishes, the storm can actually knock the satellite dish off, and it'll mess up your connection. And it was like, sometimes you gotta just like, fix the connection, right? So sometimes if you. If you're feeling stressful, you're feeling anxious, you're feeling worried, it's like, okay, I'm just out of alignment.

Marquel R [00:59:30]:
Let me get back in alignment. And that might look like prayer. That might be getting into your word. They might be coming over here to listen to an episode with Dariel Unpacks this. This might looks like going to church or speaking to somebody or whatever that looks like to like, get you back.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:59:45]:
Tapping. That's why we do the Emotional freedom technique to get back your center. Right. To re aligned with how God designed you. Yeah.

Marquel R [00:59:53]:
And it's a practice. And the only other thing I would say as practical as well is that it's a practice. So it's like don't worry about trying to get it perfect. Don't judge yourself. If you kind of get into anxiousness or worry, it's like you still partially human. Right. So it's like just be aware of it and then just adjust and realign. Because again, you're a child.

Marquel R [01:00:15]:
God don't want. I was telling my boy Don the other day, God don't want you to figure it out. Because once you figure out, once you think you figured it out, we all seen when we get 16, 17, we think we got it all figured out. Now we're like, I can't wait to go out and get my own place. I can't wait to. Because we think we got life figured out. But it's like you realize you don't know nothing about life. So God is like, God don't want you to figure it out.

Marquel R [01:00:34]:
God don't want you to be overly confident in your abilities. God wants you to be confident in his abilities and to depend on him. And you only expect perfection, you know, perfect daily. It's a daily practice. So I would say that's my other practical thing, just to practice it. Don't worry about trying to get it right. Don't worry about trying to get it perfect. Just practice.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:00:52]:
Yeah, that's so good. Because the how is not your job, it's God's anyway. So stop doing his job. Do yours.

Marquel R [01:00:59]:
Bingo.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:00:59]:
Right? Like, yeah. So good. So good. I could talk to you all day. I could talk to you about this all day. I do have my three closing questions that I'm going to ask you in just a moment. But I want to just give you the floor if there's anything else that is sitting on your heart right now that you'd like to share. I think I'm going to call this episode pruning season.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:01:20]:
I think that that was probably the biggest gem for me in terms of all of the things that you shared and for people to be able to identify where if they are in a pruning season and what they need to do most right now as they're pruning. And I loved when you said God, prunes what's fruitful so that we can continue to bear fruit. So I just wanna, if there's anything else you wanna be able to share about anything we've Talked about, for sure.

Marquel R [01:01:47]:
I would say if you're in a pruning season, pruning season, actually get excited. Actually be grateful. Cause if you. You can't go through pruning if you aren't fruitful. Like, God said, be fruitful and multiply. So God said, be fruitful. God knows if you're fruitful, you have to be pruned. So it's part of the process.

Marquel R [01:02:04]:
So actually get excited. Actually be grateful because you're in a pruning season, because that means you've been fruitful. And then also get excited because on the other side of pruning, there's more fruit to produce. So it's like, but. And we see it happen in nature, but it's like when a tree goes through fall and it loses all its leaves or winter or whatever, it doesn't like, freak out. It's just like, I'm in a different season right now. So I think it's important for us to discern the seasons and be like, okay, yeah, I'm in pruning right now. Let me.

Marquel R [01:02:36]:
It's nothing for me to do. It's for me to be.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:02:40]:
Let me be.

Marquel R [01:02:41]:
Let me surrender to the season that I'm in. And because I know another season comes as well. The important thing is just don't die in the season. Right? So let me be present to the season. Let me take the lessons that I should get from the season and just be excited. Cause, like, if you're being fruitful, you gotta go through a season of pruning. Like, if your business is growing. I was talking with my mentor the other day.

Marquel R [01:03:06]:
He probably did like a half a billion. And he was. I was like, has it always been up and to the right for you? I just asked him as I know it, and he was like, oh, no. He was like, the down season is actually what sets you up for the up season.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:03:17]:
Yeah, absolutely.

Marquel R [01:03:18]:
But it's all necessary. So get excited. If you're in the pruning season, get excited. If you haven't stay in business long enough, you will go through it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:03:25]:
Yeah, absolutely. This has been so good. Okay. So I always. At the end of every episode, whenever we have a guest, I like to ask three questions, really, just to ground the conversation. Because we, as we've done today, sometimes we talk about business, sometimes we don't. But I like to make sure that we're keeping our listeners with a professional library that's gonna support the goals and initiatives they have as they're on this move to and beyond seven figures. So I'm gonna tell you the three up front and then you can give em to me in the order that you most prefer.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:03:55]:
Number one, what is the book? Number two, what is the quote? And number three, what is the tool that has made the biggest difference on your own move to millions?

Marquel R [01:04:06]:
So I would say, number one, the book I would say is the War of Art is by Steven Pressfield. That's my most gifted book. A lot of times people get it mixed up with the Art of War. Yeah, it's not. So it's the War of Art. So that's the book. The quote is, I seek thee first the kingdom of God.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:04:26]:
I knew you were gonna say that. I started to write Matthew 6 and 33. I started to.

Marquel R [01:04:30]:
That's. That's the one. Seek thee first the kingdom of God. That's. That's, that's the one. The other one is that I love is the Marianne Williamson. I can't think of it. It's escaping me right now.

Marquel R [01:04:40]:
My biggest fear.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:04:41]:
Our deepest fear.

Marquel R [01:04:42]:
Yeah, our deepest fear. That's it. That was. That was powerful. But. But that the first thing that came to mind when I heard quote was and so I just went with it. Seek the first the kingdom of God. The tool.

Marquel R [01:04:52]:
The tool. This is going to trip some people out is Google Calendar. Google Calendar. Like I run everything through Google Calendar. If it's not on my calendar, it's not real. Like I have to put it on the calendar. My son, he's starting Kindercamp in a couple weeks. It's on the calendar.

Marquel R [01:05:07]:
I build everything around it, vacations the whole nine. And now I can see where I'm optimizing my time and budgeting my time and I can, I can do it accordingly. So if I had to pick one tool, it's been a game changer. And most people don't use, unfortunately, is a calendar, but Google Calendar is game changer.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:05:23]:
Absolutely. I agree. Mine is all color coded. I got all the different calendars for all the different things. So I can see it's a snapshot and know what's going on. Awesome. Marquel, this has been awesome and amazing. I'm so glad that we got to have this conversation.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:05:37]:
Yeah, this was. This was perfect. Exactly what I believe people need to hear in this season, this pruning season. So I wanna thank you again for being on the show and for those of you who are listening, we will see you next time.

Marquel R [01:05:49]:
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:05:51]:
Was it good for you? I know, I know it was good for you. Because it was good for me. The amount of notes that I took during this conversation, ridiculous and amazing. What I love about Marquel and we got into this is just watching his own evolution and how he's shifted and grown. He's been one of my favorite clients for a myriad of reasons. What I love about him the most is that he is extremely coachable. He is fully surrendered and he is tapped into the holy spirit and that makes for an amazing client. And as a result of that, we've been able to do some powerful work together over the years.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:06:29]:
Now, in his own right, he's the bomb.com and you just witnessed that. And being able to help him initially get to seven figures and then fine tune over the years has been something I'm extremely proud of. Being part of his village, helping him to build the company that he runs today that is allowing him to create legacy and financial legacy and wealth for his family. I'm honored, I'm grateful, I'm humbled. There's so many things that came out of this conversation that I want to noodle on, but I'm just gonna leave you with this again. We call this episode pruning season because very early on he said in that quote, and I'm coming from John 15, if you're in the Bible, God only prunes what is fruitful. So if you are right now feeling the weights of what is happening in the world, in your business on your shoulders, and as a result, you're shifting, you're changing, you're streamlining, you're reducing, you're reviewing your swot, analysing, you're doing all the things to help you to cinch in, lean out the business. First of all, you are not alone.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:07:42]:
It is a pruning season for me too. But most importantly, you have to prune because you're fruitful. And the next batch of fruit is gonna be contingent upon what is pruned right now. I pray that this conversation has served you extremely well. I pray that you will come back to it as often as you need to be reminded. For such a time as this, pruning is what is most needed and most necessary. Y'. All.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:08:10]:
I just feel so grateful for you because I know this conversation is going to be a defining moment and a game changer every time you seek to come back. And listen, if you've been in business for any period of time. I've been in business for 17 years. I've seen many seasons like this season. I started my business in a season much like this season. And pruning, evaluating, refining, anchoring into God, the Holy Spirit, to the real CEO of your company is how you make it through. I'm holding space for your biggest breakthrough yet and I know your next move as you prune is going to be your best move. I'll see you guys next time.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [01:08:55]:
Take care. Thank you for joining me for the Move to Millions podcast. If this episode has impacted you in any way, would you please take a moment and rate and review. Doing so helps us to deepen our impact and expand our reach around the world. And if you are ready to start your very own Move to Millions, I highly recommend that you order your very own copy of my brand new best selling book Move to Millions the proven framework to become a million dollar CEO with grace and ease instead of hustle and grind. You can get your copy and our bonuses today at move million to millions book.com until next time. Remember, millions are your birthright and to access them you need only move. I'll see you next time.

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