Ep 180 – Justin Breen: People Like Us

ADD or ADHD is not a disorder; it’s a sign of genius mislabeled by humans.” – Justin Breen

About Our Guest

Justin Breen is the Founder/CEO of the global PR firm BrEpic and exclusive connectivity platform BrEpic Network. His newest book, Epic Life, features a foreword from Dr. Peter Diamandis and has been the No. 1 overall book for sales on Amazon Kindle. It also recently made the Wall Street Journal and USA Today Bestseller lists.

Episode Summary

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Have you often felt out of place? Have you found yourself questioning your gifts and if you can really make, move and leave millions? Are you a big picture thinker and visionary with lots of ideas and very little implementation to show for it? Has your greatness been diagnosed and labeled in a way that might stifle your very genius? If you are shaking your head “yes,” I know how you feel because I have felt the same. This episode is for people like us – brilliant, big picture thinkers and visionaries who are often misunderstood on our journey to greatness.

When I was in grade school, after one of our annual test periods, I was called into the office and informed that I was considered “gifted.” Being gifted came with all sorts of baggage and expectations. When I became an entrepreneur, I questioned everything and often felt like I was a nomad, wondering aimlessly vs the child who had been labeled gifted in my youth.

My guest, Justin Breen, says that an entrepreneur is “the most damaged person with the best coping skills.” People like us, he says, are true geniuses that simplify the problems of the world. People like us – gifted, talented, high achieving entrepreneurs and business owners – are what make the world and businesses move. If you’ve ever felt out of place and that your greatness and genius was questioned at every turn, grab your pen and Move to Millions Podcast notebook for some true inspiration so that you can continue to shake the planet. Listen in now to discover:

  • The top traits of the most gifted people in the world
  • How to prioritize your family over your business and grow it to the next level
  • 3 keys to unearthing your next level of genius
  • Why simplification of your life is the key to scaling and sustaining your growth
  • Two questions to ask yourself every day to continue to be the best version of yourself
  • And so much more…

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Powerful Quotes from the Episode

  • The cream rises to the top. So we partner with the cream that rises to the top. 
  • I just keep writing bigger checks to be in smaller rooms, but the people in those rooms are making bigger impacts.”
  • “Success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal. My worthy ideal is to be connecting superhero for every visionary who shares their stories with the world.”
  • “The formula for creating a successful global company is simple. It’s a simple formula. It’s you see a problem, create solution, problem solved. Successful global company.”
  • “Oh, they’re just winning the wrong game.”

How to Connect with Justin Breen  

Website:  https://www.brepicllc.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BrEpicBreen
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinbreen1/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brepicbreen

Books Justin Recommends: Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankel, Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill   

Favorite Quote: The cream rises to the top

Tool Justin Swears By Own His Move to Millions:  Kolbe A and talking to his children

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Justin [00:00:00]:

So the formula for creating a successful global company, it’s simple. It’s a simple formula. It’s you see a problem, create solution. Problem solved. Successful global company. How to build collaborative global companies while putting your loved ones first. Problem solved. Answer a book is a key that opens up endless doors. That’s what it is and it’s being a litmus test for people you serve.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:00:34]:

You’re listening to the Move to Millions podcast with Dr. Darnyelle J. Harmon. If you’re ready for high level conversations that position and prepare you to move your company cash flow and connection to and beyond the million-dollar mark, let’s get this party started. This episode is powered by Move to Millions, the proven framework to become a million-dollar CEO with grace and ease. Instead of hustle and grind, grab your book and our bonuses. Now at www.movetomillionsbook.com I have a treat for you today. I am really excited. I know I always say that because I interview the best people, but my interview today, it’s going to be a little different than you’re used to from me, but I know you’re going to feel it just the same and it is going to give you something that you didn’t even know that you needed. My guest today, Justin Breen. Phenomenal. That’s the word I would use to describe him. He is absolutely phenomenal. He is a genius, he is brilliant, he is a visionary. His ability with people is really out of this world. Let me read his brief bio. Justin Breen is the founder and CEO of the global PR firm BrEpic, an exclusive connectivity platform, BrEpic Network. His newest book, Epic Life, features a forward by Dr. Peter Diamondis and has been a number one overall book for sales on Amazon Kindle. It was also recently made a Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestseller. Y’all what I love about Justin, I first met him not even that long ago, but I was able to connect with him really deeply because of some of my favorite assessments. Assessments that we use with our clients and our programs. Strengths finder Kolbe A and just his ability to understand who you be as a result of what some of these assessments tell us and connect to you on that level is just next level. It’s completely unheard of. So I want you to grab pen and paper and that notebook. You should have your own Move to Millions podcast notebook so that you can take notes as we jump into my conversation with Justin Breen. Justin Breen, I am so excited to welcome you to the Move to Millions podcast. How are you today?

Justin [00:03:08]:

Well, grateful to be here and incredibly excited. I think. I’ve been waiting a long time to talk to you in this format and it’s going to be awesome because our brains are incredibly collaborative and then we’re heroes to the same visionaries. So I just can’t wait to hear what happens from this.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:03:29]:

Yeah, I agree. I think I just still remember our first conversation and interaction and just how scintillating that was. It was everything. And I’m like, oh, I can’t wait. So we’re past our live event, and now we can just have this really powerful conversation that I know is going to serve our listeners. Before we jump in, I would love it if you would just take a moment and just tell everybody who you are in your own words.

Justin [00:03:55]:

Yeah. So people like us are usually aliens within our own family, community, and verticals. The only people that understand us are our top entrepreneurs on the planet. And I am a dad and husband who happens to be top entrepreneur on Planet.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:04:10]:

I love that I ask every single person who comes on this podcast that question, and often people lead with what they do.

Justin [00:04:19]:

I don’t care what someone does.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:04:21]:

Right. Well, I mean, this is exactly where I’m going, Justin, and I love that. Right out the gate, you’re like, I’m a dad, and I’m a husband who happens to be a top entrepreneur. And I think that it’s important. I really want to stop there and pull on it a little bit, because I know that I’ve seen it happen so often where people’s identities become the work that it is that they do. And so how have you been able to really separate that and not confuse the two in any way?

Justin [00:04:50]:

Okay, so the whole show could literally be an answer to that question. I’m a simplifier, so I will try to simplify that as best as possible.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:05:01]:

And you don’t have to. This is your time, so I want you to take your time and break it down however you want to do.

Justin [00:05:06]:

So great. Thank you. Thank you for being a relator. I appreciate that. Okay. I’m a very simple person. Most people don’t think that, but I actually am very simple. So my entire day is either spending time with my family, my wife and two children are in the house right now during this recording, or I spend my time talking to the world’s top entrepreneurs. So not humans, not business owners, not consultants, just pure visionary, global thinking entrepreneurs. Most of them are all over the place, Add, diagnosed or undiagnosed. It’s not a disorder. It’s a sign of genius mislabeled by humans. And then my brain hears blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then it simplifies all that blah, blah, blah into patterns. Okay? So every answer I provide will be a pattern to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah from top visionary on planet. Okay, so that’s the simplification to that. So what a true entrepreneur actually is, again, not a business owner, not a human, not a consultant. Pure entrepreneur, not a silver spoon. That’s a fundamentally different discussion. So a true entrepreneur is the most damaged person. The most damaged person with the best coping skills. So all I do is talk to people like us. Okay? These are the four things that separate people like us from humans, business owners, consultants. I have not met one person like us, not one that hasn’t overcome at least one of the following four things. Basically everyone I talk to now is threes and fours. There are a few exceptions, but it’s mostly threes and fours. So here are the four things. One, bankruptcy or potential bankruptcy. Two, depression. Three, highest level of anxiety that you can imagine. Four likely and or possible traumatic experiences as a child or young adult.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:06:59]:

Okay, I’ve got two of the four for sure, and I’m borderline.

Justin [00:07:04]:

Now you’re three anxiety. You’re three. Yeah, that’s three. So everyone I talk to now is threes and fours. Basically, when I first started entrepreneur journey with zero business background, it was ones and twos because it was humans, small business owners, consultants. Now it’s all, I mean, basically all threes and fours. So for 99.9% of world people that are not like us, those four things are excuses for people like us. Figure it out. That’s what separates entrepreneurs from everyone else. Okay, so the dovetail, unfortunate dovetail to that, that I see again, everything I see as a pattern is and then entrepreneurs like us have the highest IQ, EQ, most courage, most guts, most people are not they don’t have the coping skills to handle those four things. So what I see from people like us is they use those coping skills to create massive company. Here’s what I do. This is why we lead with what we do. Cars, wealth, and then certainly not always, but many times at expense of anything meaningful. Torched family, multiple divorces, never seeing children. And so that’s why I’m a dad husband who happens to be entrepreneur, because I talk to one to two folks like us every single week that have let entrepreneur life destroy their family life or prevented them from anything meaningful. That’s a bad idea.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:08:23]:

That’s a really bad idea. I love the breakdown, and I love the backdrop. I think that I agree 100% with everything that you’ve said so far. And so what I’m curious of, because you’ve clearly made the distinction, because you’ve talked to so many entrepreneurs who have done the contrary or done the opposite. And I don’t even know if you have the answer honestly, Justin, but how do we break the pattern? Or allowing our visionary energy to supersede the ability to truly live our best life? Because I think that if you’re just an entrepreneur, you’re a one trick pony, right? And you’re not living your best life. And I want to get into your book.

Justin [00:09:01]:

The book is called Epic.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:09:03]:

I know it is. I want to get into that premise. But that’s my first question. How do we break this pattern so that we are extraordinary human beings who are living extraordinary lives in every way?

Justin [00:09:16]:

Okay, tremendous. So, again, thank you for that question. Everything is a pattern. So literally, the book epic life is called the subtitle is how to build collaborative global companies while putting your loved ones first. So each chapter is an answer. Answer. Okay. So for those interested in that, to simplify all of that, there are two things. One, people like us usually, but not always marry a stabilizing human. Not always, but usually. So I always ask people like us, is your spouse or partner a school teacher, a social worker, a lawyer, an engineer? It my wife’s a pediatrician. So think the opposite of me. And then they’re like, how did you know that? I’m like, well, imagine marrying yourself might not be the best idea. It does happen. One of two things happen when that happens. One greatest life imaginable, incredible joy traveling the world. More often than not, it’s a total disaster. Because there’s no stabilization. Because it’s two visionaries all over the place.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:10:22]:


Justin [00:10:23]:

So the dovetail to marrying or being with a stabilizing human is having a stabilizing mindset. That is what I’ve learned throughout this journey is having the right mindset attracts the right network and creates the right opportunities. And again, that’s a pattern. And then for me, there’s only one mindset with three attributes. Because again, everything’s a pattern. So one is visionary. You see things before humans or business owners see them. Two is abundance. There’s no scarcity, no scarcity. It’s just pure abundance, pure global abundance. And then three is investment. Anyone who asks me, what do you cost or charge? I stop talking to them because they’re living in cost scarcity. Red water world, not blue, not blue water, not blue ocean world. And so what I have found is visionary abundance, investment mindset is a collaborative mindset to being with stabilizing human. It’s a stabilizing mindset is checking your.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:11:23]:

Profit and loss statement and realizing that you’ve made $1 million in cash or more in your business in one year. Your wildest dream. I’ve got just the book you need to give you a step by step framework to bring your dream to life and to position you to sustain it for years to come. Move to millions. The book will take you from straddling the six figure plateau to making, moving, and leaving Millions. Even if you have no idea where to start or how simple it can be. You can start your journey on the Move to Millions today by ordering your [email protected]. As soon as you place your order, you will join our Move to Millions Book Squad and get access to exclusive bonuses that include getting to read the book now before your copy arrives. Once the book release, go now to Movetomillionsbook.com and join our book squad by getting your copy today. Okay, because I was going to ask you, what is a stabilizing mindset? So I’m glad you clarified for that. So let me just pull this back for our listeners. So two things I think that are important to know here. So if we think about those of you who are listening, that are entrepreneurs. Visionaries. You have big dreams, you have millions on your mind. You want to have tremendous impact out in the world.

Justin [00:12:46]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:12:46]:

And at the same time, you have this fear that you might lose something valuable and important. I e your family in the process. I see it happen all the time. So many of our clients, they hold themselves back from operating at the level that will produce that kind of income because they’re afraid that they’re going to.

Justin [00:13:06]:

Lose their I can respond to that if it’s helpful.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:13:08]:

Well, so let me finish the centering thought and then, yes, I want to hear your response. So for those of you who find yourselves in that bucket, what I want you to be taking away from this conversation and this piece specifically, right now, is there are three things, three attributes that you really need to pull on so that you stop allowing yourself to believe that it is possible that you would lose everything as you gain and truly take your positioning and your place as a real visionary who is here to shake the planet. Number one, you have to operate at all times from your visionary energy. You have heard me say 550, 11,000 times. Do everything from your vision point and not your vantage point. Number two, you need to live and move in the abundance that you were born and created to be. There cannot be any lack in you, any lack around you. And number three, you have to understand the significance of investment. And that investment isn’t necessarily just the financial cost scarcity, as Justin refers to it. It’s about understanding the significance of what you might be investing as you make any decision that you are making. If you would start to guide your life in this way tremendous, then it is going to make a big difference and it is going to remove the barrier and the belief that you hold that you might lose something. In the process of gaining everything that it is and stepping fully to who you be, who you have been since you entered the Earth Realm.

Justin [00:14:43]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:14:43]:

Justin, what would you add to that?

Justin [00:14:45]:

Well, one tremendous. Thank you. You’re welcome. I can hear you’re connected this relator at a very high level. My top three. Strength finders. Gallup Clifton. Strength finders. Are activate. Maximize achieve. People like you really like me, and most people have no idea what I’m talking about, which is fine, but that’s okay.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:15:02]:

Well, I really like you, so that’s all that matters.

Justin [00:15:05]:

And people like you are the ones that help everyone else. So that, again, purpose of my life is to be connecting superhero for every visionary who shares their stories with the world. And so doing that and spending time with my family allows me to help everyone else. I just help people like you because you’re the ones that help everyone else. Okay, thank you. My wife taught me how to say thank you. She’s harmony. One in strength. Finders harmony. I’m 31 out of 34, but she’s collaborative harmony. Okay, let me focus. So chapter one of Epic Life, and this 100% addresses what you’re talking about. Okay, 100%. Chapter one is the cream rises to the top. So again, all I do is talk to ideator, geniuses, visionaries, futuristic, activators like you, and then simplify into patterns. So, chapter one is what my dad said every day that he was alive. That I can remember my dad and I don’t know if we talked about this before, but so my dad was 61 when I was born. 61? 61. He was born in 1916. He’d be 107 now. He died when I was 13. He was a World War II hero, shot down multiple times in combat, many times without a parachute, got back into a plane. Wow. That is my litmus test. I do not understand people that make excuses or let fear get in the way. That, again, is what separates entrepreneurs from humans. Entrepreneurs. Those four things. Figure it out. My dad became attorney in Nuremberg trials, nazi war, crime trials. And then after he died he died when I was 13. I found a diary of him fighting in Battle of Hurkin Forest, which was a battle toward end of World War II. For anyone who has read Man’s Search for Meaning, viktor Frankl that’s the ultimate no excuses. My dad’s diary is close to that in terms of the whores and things that he survived. Some of the excerpts from that diary are in chapter one. The cream rises to the top. And so every day, age maybe five to 13, that I can remember. Conscious memory. He would say, the cream rises to the top. So we partner with the cream that rises to the top. Or those that will get back into a plane after another one’s been shot down without a parachute. I mean, that’s what entrepreneur life actually is.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:17:21]:

Yeah, you’re right.

Justin [00:17:22]:

Most people use fear as excuses. At the highest level, there are no excuses. There aren’t any. You either do it or you make an excuse. And again, that’s why I help people like you, because, you know, excuses figure it out, and then you help everyone else. I love that. So good.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:17:43]:

So, for me, what got me really excited about us chatting today was just offering some insight. So thinking about all the conversations you had, we could do like, a whole series of podcasts, just debriefing on all of the amazing people in the world that you’ve talked about. So you making the conscious decision that you’re not going to sacrifice your family as you collaborate globally to build your company and to help other people build their companies.

Justin [00:18:13]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:18:14]:

What are some of the decisions? So we understand that vision, being a visionary, abundance and investment are part of the stabilizing mindset. What are some of the decisions that we have to consciously make if we want to decide not to sacrifice anything as we grow, as we build, as we accomplish what we’re supposed to do in our work so that we can truly live an epic life.

Justin [00:18:41]:

This is not a compliment. I guess it is, but your brain is it’s a fascinating brain. I mean, you’re definitely high IQ pattern recognizer. Again, not a compliment. It’s just I hear it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:18:52]:

I’m going to take it as a compliment. So thank you.

Justin [00:18:58]:

I’m a very simple person and then was a journalist for 20 years. So you don’t get into journalism for employee count, revenue, office space. That stuff’s confusing to me. That’s business owner stuff that frankly annoys me. I just don’t care about that stuff. I never have. So there are only two questions. Only two? Only two that I ask myself every single day that actually matter. Okay, only two. One. Most importantly, did I have a good experience that day with my family every day? The answer to that is yes. If you know someone I’m curious. I haven’t met anyone yet. But if you know someone that has had a good family life, that has not had a good life, I would like to meet that person. I have not met them yet. I don’t think I will, but I haven’t yet. And then two. Did network grow on a global level again every day? Certainly since starting Entrepreneur Journey in 2017, the answer to that has been yes. I have found all this other business owner stuff takes care of itself with those two questions fundamentally. Okay, so that’s one. Okay. And then the other pattern that I just kind of let my brain do what it’s supposed to do now and I’m like, okay, that’s just my brain. So the other pattern is I just keep making bigger investments to be in smaller rooms, but the people in those rooms are making bigger impact and that allows me to spend biggest investment in the smallest room, which is my family where I can make the most just oh, that’s good.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:20:37]:

Justin, I need you to say that.

Justin [00:20:38]:

I will say it slower. Yes. Okay. And as background to that, if you’re not a litmus test for people you serve that’s hypocrisy. So how can you ask people to write bigger checks to invest in your companies if you are not writing bigger checks to invest in being in smaller rooms? Okay, I’ll say it again. So I just keep writing bigger checks to be in smaller rooms, but the people in those rooms are making bigger impacts. That allows me to spend biggest investment, biggest check and smallest room, which is my family where I can make the most impact. So it’s the same formula. I’m just being a litmus test for people I serve. And then I don’t like to land the plane, but I will in this case because it’s important. So what does that mean? In I guess a humanistic networking way. So the first network group I joined was $250 a year. No one understood what I was talking about but I’m still in it because loyal. But then there was a 500 and it was always an investment, never a cost, always an investment. Okay so then there was 500, then 1000, then there was a 2000 and there was a 5000 a year. US at the 10,000 level kind of started to meet people who understood what I was talking about. And then now I’m in two that are 25,000 a year plus easily would invest fifty K a year plus because it’s the same formula. And now in those rooms I’ll just say what they are. One is strategic. Coach ten x. Dan sullivan’s. Group and then the other abundance. 360 dr. Peter Diamondis He also wrote forward for Epic Life. It’s a great honor. Those are the rooms. Not only do people understand what I’m talking about, I can truly learn. I like to be the dumbest person in the room. Otherwise I’m in the wrong room.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:22:22]:

Right. I love that. I think that is so good. Oh my gosh. Okay, I got to pull back what you just said for the listeners. I think they caught it but just.

Justin [00:22:30]:

In case they didn’t yes you’re relating.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:22:32]:

Connectedness to absolutely and it’s so important because this formula that Justin just dropped I can’t even find the words that’s how good it is.

Justin [00:22:43]:

All right, so let me just reflect back it’s all in the book by.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:22:46]:

The we’ll get we’ll talk a little bit more about the book in a second. So two questions that you want to ask yourself every single day which will help to keep you in a position to always make sure that what you’re doing is giving you exactly what it is that you want. And at the end of the day, as human beings, even though you are also an extraordinary entrepreneur and visionary, your most innate need is to know that you matter and to know that you belong. And so the two questions that Justin asked himself that I would invite you to tailor and customize to your own specific circumstance would be number one. Did I have a good experience today with my like? We all work, we do what it is that we do to create the income, to live our best life, to support those that we love and we care about. If you’re not spending time with those that you love and you care about, something is wrong. And then the second question being did your work create the impact that you wanted to create? Justin specifically is about networking because he spends the rest of his time that he’s not with his family talking to people like us. Right. And then this is the real nugget that I want you to catch that I love and I just love it. Okay. Make bigger investments to be in smaller rooms. And that’s because not everyone is going to spend the money to make the investment, to be in the spaces where they are challenged, inspired, edified, equipped and empowered.

Justin [00:24:16]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:24:17]:

And when you spend time in these smaller rooms, the people that are in those rooms are making the biggest impact in the world so that you can learn and glean from what they are doing. Find the success clues that you can relate to and apply to your own life, so that ultimately it gives you more time to spend in the smallest room, which is the room with your family. Justin, that is amazing. I have chills all over my body right now. It is so scintillating how you have simplified why we do the work that we do. So for those of you who are out there that are not in community, in rooms that the checks that you have to write to be there make you want to swallow your tongue stuck on the six figure plateau, it’s time that you cross over the million dollar milestone with grace and ease. Part memoir and part methodology move to millions. The proven framework to become a million-dollar CEO with grace and ease. Instead of Hustle and Grind helps entrepreneurs and business owners simplify their processes to multiply their profits. Known for breaking down complex topics, I equip you with all that you need to leave the headaches of scaling your business behind so that you can be empowered and edified without compromising any of your values in the process. It is time for you to make the move to millions. Grab your copy. [email protected] you are missing an opportunity to get around people who will truly light you up and deliver back to you more time to spend with your family. Because success leaves clues. And in these small rooms are the people who can create the shortcuts that you need to go to your next level. This is why Masterminding is so important. This is why Napoleon Hill and Think and Grow Rich talked about the emergence of whoa.

Justin [00:26:15]:

This is amazing. Yeah, we’re the same person in a different way. It’s amazing. You’re going to ask about my book. You’re going to ask about a book and then it’s Outwitting the Devil, which is Think and Grow real.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:26:25]:

Oh, my gosh, I love Outwitting the Devil better than Think and Grow Rich.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:26:27]:

I love it. Oh, my gosh, I love it. So I just want to make sure that you guys understand the cheat code that Justin has just given you. Find the small rooms where you can make big investments to be around people who are shaking the planet so that you can get more time to spend with your family. The end. Justin we could literally stop right here, right? We won’t, but we could because this is amazing and I love that. And I think I’m going to call this episode people Like US.

Justin [00:27:01]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:27:02]:

You’ve said it a lot. But I want the people who are like us, Justin, to self identify, to get this cheat code and go out there and create an environment to live their best life with those that they love while making the biggest impact and the most income that they ever possibly could. Because they’re willing to invest in themselves at a level that is going to create everything it is that they truly desire and bring it into view.

Justin [00:27:27]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:27:28]:

Oh my gosh, that’s so good.

Justin [00:27:30]:

Yeah, so good.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:27:33]:

I’m kind of almost a little bit dumbfounded. Like not dumbfounded, but I don’t know what to say after that. Let’s talk about your book.

Justin [00:27:41]:

I can add to that.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:27:43]:

Okay. Add to that. Okay. And then we’ll start talking a little.

Justin [00:27:45]:

Bit more about so if I’m not having a conversation like this, I get bored. So my entire day is, again, spending time with my family or having conversations like this. So again, I can’t talk to people that don’t understand it because it’s a pointless conversation into nothing. I can’t help them, but I can help people like you. And then you help everyone. It’s the same formula. So Earl Nightingale, for those who have not heard of him, he’s like the OG motivational speaker. He started doing motivational speaking when it was just started, when audio recordings just started. So Earl Nightingale and then if you look up Earl Nightingale’s secret, it’s a great audio recording, tremendous. And then there are two quotes from that because I’m a simplifier and I only want the best parts, and then just activated into my life. So the two quotes and you said success already. So I’ll mirror what you said. I’ll be a relator to your relator. My favorite quote of his is, success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal. Success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal. My worthy ideal is to be connecting superhero for every visionary who shares their stories with the world. So every day, progressive realization of where the ideal get better and better at purpose of my life. So that’s one I love. That two is you become what you think about, you become what you think about. And all I think about is spending time with my family and then growing network on a global level purpose of life. So you become connecting superhero for every visionary who shares their stories with the world. And I’m a visionary who’s sharing my story with the world. This is an example. This is an example of that. And you were talking about Napoleon Hill outwitting the Devil is the book. I listened to the audio recording, which is better than the actual book, which is I agree.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:30:02]:

I think the audio is way better.

Justin [00:30:04]:

Yes. Usually I actually like to read books. In this case, I’m actually finishing reading the book, and I’ve listened to the audio recording and the main essential, I mean, there’s endless great knowledge in that. The number one. Thing is to outwit the devil, which I guess in this case, the devil is negative energy or fear. That’s why I don’t understand people that are afraid to. I just can’t. It’s illogical to me. I mean, my dad was a World War II hero who was shot down multiple times and then no excuses. So the number one way to outwit the devil is to have definiteness of purpose, which is progressive realization of worthy ideal, which is purpose of life. So I just consume this content and talk to people like you and consume the right content or knowledge and then simplify it into my life. And then my top three strength finders are activate, Maximize, achieve. So never stop doing it. Progressive realization of worthy ideal. I love all of that.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:31:12]:

I love every word that comes out of your mouth, Justin. Just so good. Okay, so let’s dig a little bit more into your book. So what was the impetus behind writing Epic Life?

Justin [00:31:26]:

Man, you’re a simplifier. Also, most great entrepreneurs are simplifiers. They take blah, blah, blah, simplify pattern. Okay? There are some that are really great multipliers, and then there are some like me. That and this is you too. You’re 100% simplifier, but your companies are 100% multipliers. That’s what I am. Okay, so why? You ask a very simple question, but it’s a multiplication answer, okay? Right. Okay, so again, the book is to land the plane. It’s called Epic Life how to build collaborative, global companies while putting your loved ones first. So the formula for creating a successful global company is simple. It’s a simple formula. It’s you see a problem, create solution, problem solved. Successful global company. See a problem, create solution, problem solved. Successful global company. So the book is a successful global company. That’s all it is. The problem was I talked to one, to two folks like us every single week that have let entrepreneur life destroy their family life or torch loved relationships. So create solution, which is book. How to build collaborative global companies while putting your loved ones first. Problem solved. Answer successful global company. Because I’m being a litmus test for people I serve. Media is constantly interviewing me for book, which I’m very grateful for because litmus tests for people I serve. Then they want to interview folks that are partnering with PR firm and Global network platform. Why? Because we only partner with people like me. Because why wouldn’t you do that? So a book is a key that opens up endless doors. That’s what it is. And it’s being a litmus test for people you serve.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:33:22]:

I love that.

Justin [00:33:23]:

This is one of the greatest compliments I’ve ever given anyone. And I rarely ever give anyone any compliments because I’m very direct. But you have gotten me and I usually talk much faster than this. I am intentionally talking slower to you. One, because you’re such a great relator to your audience, but also, I didn’t know it because I can’t see what you’re doing. But I figured you were writing things down, so I wanted to talk slow enough so you could absorb it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:33:52]:

Yeah, and I’m writing it for two reasons, right? So I’m writing it for my own cognition because when you write it down, the way that it enters into your memory and your cellular memory is different than if you read it or say it. And I’m also writing it down because I want to be able to pull much of this out when we go back and do the show notes for the episode. Because I think these quotes, these things that you’re stating with such ease and without limitation are going to be true game changers for our audience. And I want for them to be able to see them, to hear them, to relate with them, to synthesize them and then to ultimately take action because of it. And it’s hard to do that if I’m not fully present in listening and lapping up every word that is coming out of your mouth. I think for my community, the people that will listen, people that are just out in the world. The important thing that I really want you to take away from what Justin and I have just even discussed so far is that you are people like, you know, if you’re an entrepreneur, if you listen to this podcast, because a.

Justin [00:35:04]:

Human’S not listening to exactly.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:35:07]:

Right. Because you are millions minded, you want to be big impact. You want to really shape the planet.

Justin [00:35:14]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:35:15]:

I want you to know Justin wants you to know that you can do that without having to sacrifice and miss the most important part of the journey. And so I hope that there’s a self-reflection happening right now and that you’re even evaluating where are the opportunities inside of your life and your work ethic where you can make some adjustments. Right. If you love your work so much that you work all the time, that’s probably an indication that you need to hire team, right? Because the work can still get done. But then that way you have that time to be present with your right. Like, I live by Stephen Covey’s seven Habits of Highly Effective People and one of his begin with the end in mind, right? I always set an end to my day. I start my day purposeful with intention, with what I want to accomplish. And I keep very cognizant of why I do this. I do this so that my husband and I can live a better life. I do this so that we can create financial legacy for the children we haven’t even had yet. I do this so that I can impact the lives of children whose parents went to jail right. And have led them to believe that all of this is not possible. That’s a big part of my why I do what it is that I do and so I have to keep that front and center so that I don’t get so caught up in what it is that I’m doing that I find myself overworking. Because when you’re doing what you love, it’s very easy. So the people who have built to the sacrifice of the people they love, they didn’t do it necessarily intentionally. It’s a very easy mistake to make when you love what it is that you do every single day.

Justin [00:36:57]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:36:57]:

But what I love about what you’re sharing are the ways we can be equally intentional about having a full circle life or an epic life, as you call it, that we don’t have to be one trick ponies. We don’t have to choose one or the other. It’s and not collaborative.

Justin [00:37:12]:

It’s collaborative.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:37:14]:

Right. It’s collaborative. And so I think that that’s just really important and I just want to make sure know, everybody who’s listening really understands that. Justin, before we start to wrap up our conversation, anything else that is on your heart, your mind that you need to share with people like us so that they can understand that they don’t really have to choose?

Justin [00:37:41]:

Okay, thank you. Yeah. So as a journalist for 20 years, well, I was an entrepreneur who happened to be a journalist, not a journalist. So talked to top athletes, entertainers, musicians, actors, entrepreneurs, and then connecting them. I’ve only seen two commonalities. Only two? Only two. One, they had the same mindset, no excuses. Pure visionary, pure abundance, pure investment. So that’s one. Two. Not seen the exception to this yet. I haven’t seen it yet. But they had at least one person genuinely believe in them. So it could be a parent or aunt or uncle, grandparent, a coach, a mentor, a teacher. I haven’t seen the exception to that. Where they had no one believe in them. That would actually be fascinating.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:38:32]:

That would be fascinating.

Justin [00:38:33]:

That would be amazing. So I think there are two differences between the folks in prison or that didn’t make it. There are two differences between them and then top entrepreneur or top athlete. Only two that I see. One, they don’t have the IQ and or EQ. They don’t have the genetic coping skills or the hustle. They just don’t because if they did, then they would power through it. Two, they didn’t have anyone who believed in them. They had no one. They had the parents or everyone that said, you’re not going to do this, because they were an alien within their own family, community and vertical, and they couldn’t find another alien that believed in them or a non alien who believed in them. So I think those are the only two differences. One, the coping skills, the IQ, EQ I mean, your IQ and EQ are off the charts. They just are. And then I’m guessing you’ve had multiple people believe in you throughout your lifetime. I had a great example with my dad and certainly my mom, my wife and other folks, but mostly people had no idea what I was talking about. So I think those are the two fundamental differences between folks in prison or poverty or whatever and then people like us. Got it.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:39:46]:

I love that. Again, I love the way you synthesize and just drill things down and get right to the heart of it. And I think that it really makes a difference. If you were going to share.

Justin [00:40:00]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:40:01]:

To three tips or action steps for our listeners following this conversation and this new construct of thought that you’ve allowed to enter into their mind space, like, what would you share?

Justin [00:40:14]:

Okay. Thank you. Well, I’m really slowing down today. I’m trying to think the last time I slowed down this much the last time I slowed down this much is before my wife and I got married. My wife is technically well, she’s Jewish. Jewish, I guess I’m technically Jewish, but I’m all religions. I enjoy all religions. But the rabbi asked me what I loved about my wife, and then I just sat there. And then for like, 15 minutes, I answered the question very slowly how many things I loved about her. And then he asked her, and she said I was a hard worker, so that was pretty funny. So that’s the last time. That was 2008. So congratulations, 15 years. That’s the last time I slowed down that so much. But epic life. The chapter, I hate saying advice, but the tip, but I guess favorite chapter in regards to what you asked is winning the wrong game. Winning the wrong game. I was talking to genius entrepreneur Jesse Elder. He’s a pure genius. He’s a nine quick start like you. And this is right when COVID started. I’m like, why? Why are all these entrepreneurs leading with money and Instagram posts and all this glitz and stuff? And then I’m like, well, they torch their families and stuff, or they’re just miserable. And he’s like, oh, they’re just winning the wrong game. That’s a good idea. I’ll write a chapter about that whenever I write second book. But I think that’s the first question people like us can ask themselves, because without exception, people like us are incredibly intelligent. Whether or not they graduated from high school or college or not, their intelligence off the charts. So that’s the one. They might not even understand what game they’re winning. And then, oh, hey, I’m not seeing my family. Bad idea. Let’s actually change that. Two. The last chapter of book is just enjoy playing. Just enjoy playing. Our sons, who are eight and ten, they’re also nine quick starts like you. They’re pure visionary. Maniacs. Maniac is a compliment. And they’re both outstanding soccer players. Basically every chapter is advice from top entrepreneur on planet, except the last one, where we went to a high school soccer game with their summer soccer coach, whose name is Xander, and his high school team lost in double overtime in a playoff game. So it was his senior year and just a devastating loss. So we waited. I told the kids I go. We’re going to wait until after the coach is done talking to them to hear because I want them to say hi to Xander and congratulate him on a great career. And it was for two reasons. One, because I knew he would appreciate that because he was devastated he wasn’t going to play college soccer. So that was it for his career. And then two, I’m very high in intuition as you are as well. I knew he was going to say something of true value because when you’re at that point, when you’ve left everything on the field and there’s nothing left, and in terms of that there wasn’t a future with playing, then you have great things to so Xander told them as he was crying. One, he thanked them for coming. He really appreciated it, too. He said, Guys, remember this feeling of watching me because it’s so painful. It’s so painful when you lose like this. But just remember to enjoy. Just enjoying is a that’s something that any entrepreneur during, because entrepreneurs are those four things. They’re those four things with the best coping skills. But just to remember, just enjoy playing, because success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:44:18]:

I love it. Justin, this has been amazing. Before I can let you go, I do have to ask you our three closing questions.

Justin [00:44:25]:


Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:44:25]:

But this has just been absolutely phenomenal. I’m so glad we got an opportunity to have you on the show. I know you’re going to get lots of reach outs after people listen to this episode because your way of articulating is just so very powerful. So again, I just say thank you. So my first question for you, and you talked about a couple of books as we were going through, but is there another book in addition to your own book? Think and Go Rich outwitting the Devil, which are the books that you mentioned that you would credit to being a big part of your own journey, how you got to be here and all of the work that it is that you do with other people.

Justin [00:45:09]:

Thank you. Number one is man’s search for meaning. Victor Frankl. If anyone has not read that, I never use the should word, but that’s mandatory reading. So for those who haven’t read it, which would be shocking to me, but Viktor Frankl, his entire family was killed in the Holocaust, lost his entire life’s work, everything. And then he wrote about meaning of life. I mean, that’s the ultimate man search for meaning. That’s a must read for anyone who has not read that goal. Wherever you can go, go read that. And then two, recently read it, I think because my dad was World War II veteran and then Nazi war crime trials and we have tons of holocaust, horrific Holocaust pictures and all sorts of notes and items in my house. But The Escape Artist is an incredible book about the first two Jewish prisoners who escaped from Auschowitz. It’s not as good as Man’s Search for Meaning, but it’s pretty close. I gravitate toward those type of stories just because those are the ultimate no excuses. So man search remaining. It’s a very short read, that’s one. That’s a must read. Must.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:46:25]:

Okay, got it. And then what is the quote? You said it a couple of times.

Justin [00:46:31]:

So many quotes.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:46:33]:

I don’t know if you want to use the same one that you said I’m looking for. The cream rises to the top.

Justin [00:46:38]:

That’s my dad’s. Yeah.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:46:39]:

Okay. Is that what you want to say? Is your favorite quote the one that or is there another?

Justin [00:46:44]:

I have to go with my dad. One, because he was a pure visionary, came from nothing. He and his three brothers all served in World War II. They all survived. There were no daughters in that family, so it was very rare to send all four siblings to war, and they were actually featured in national news for that. So, I mean, yes, the cream rises to the top. For me, that’s the ultimate quote. One, because it came from my dad, but two, that’s what this life is, right?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:47:12]:

Okay, awesome. I love that. And then lastly, what is the tool that has made the difference on your own journey?

Justin [00:47:19]:

Can I give you two?

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:47:20]:


Justin [00:47:21]:

Okay. One is Kolbe A  .  The Kolbe A Index Kolbe A .com takes 20 minutes. $55, $55. I don’t care what someone’s personality is. That’s meaningless to me. I want to know if they’re actually going to do something right. There are exceptions, but the overwhelming majority of visionaries are, and I’m an exception, but they’re at least an eight quick start. That’s idea, idea, idea. Go. Ten is the highest. You’re a nine. Most people I talk to are nines and tens. I’m a seven, which is still pretty high. If you’re a seven or under, you can still be a visionary. But this is according to Kolbe A  and Gino Wickman, EOS founder, if you’re seven or under, you can be a visionary. But this is according to them, you have to have extraordinarily high IQ and or EQ because you can game the system, which makes sense. But a true visionary is someone like you an eight, nine, or ten. Quick start. Okay, so that’s one again, Kolbe A .com, it takes 20 minutes. If you’re not willing to invest $55 in that, then you’re definitely not a visionary. Okay, so that’s one. And then two. A tool is talking to my children. And what does that mean? So the single best definition of life came from talking to my eight year old. We don’t talk about I mean, we do talk about school and human stuff, but I was talking to my eight year old. His name is Chase. He’s a nine quick star like you and we were talking about bending time. Bending time. So Chase, who’s a genius, he just is. I mean, he gave the best definition of life that I’ve ever heard. So he considers life one long great day. So there’s no Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, whatever that is. So yesterday is before you were born, tomorrow is after you die. So he said two ways to have one long great day. Only two, because he’s a simplifier like me. So, one, create more living things. Fundamental purpose of any living thing is to create more living things that could be human living thing or network living thing. This is a living thing. So I’m like, I don’t think there’s an argument against that. Otherwise there would be no life. We wouldn’t be talking, because that’s one. And then two, he said, do what you like to do and what you’re good at and get better and better every single. So talking to your children is the ultimate tool. Besides Kolbe A .

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:49:45]:

I love it. This has been so amazing. Justin, I just want to thank you again for taking the time to be here and to share your brilliance, your epic-ness, with our audience. We’ll make sure that we put all of your information in the show notes so that they can reach out to you. We’ll put the link for them to be able to get a copy of your book so they can add that to their professional library. I just cannot say thank you enough. Thank you so very much for being here. This has been amazing.

Justin [00:50:13]:

You’re welcome. Only the beginning. This will be a lot of fun.

Darnyelle Jervey Harmon [00:50:15]:

Absolutely. Did you guys like it? Oh, my gosh. I was literally one big fat goosebump for almost the entire conversation. So many things that Justin shared and the way he simplifies and drills things down really just make such an amazing difference. I love that he said everything is a pattern and how many of you are spending time actually looking at the patterns that you’re creating in your own life. Right? I love that he said it’s really about making sure that you have a stabilizing mindset. And he broke that down to be vision, abundance, and understand the significance of investment. But also for those of you who really are struggling with making your own move to millions because you don’t want to leave anybody behind in the process, making sure that you understand the significance of really doing your work and being in the spaces that can support you. So that quote, I think I had them repeat it three times, make bigger investments to be in smaller rooms because the people who are writing, the biggest people making the biggest impact, and they will allow you to spend time in the smallest room with your family. Everything you do needs to be about something that is greater than yourself for those that you love. And you do not have to sacrifice, you do not have to lose. This is an and, not an or. And in order for that to happen, you’re going to have to start asking yourself some really tough questions and get into places where it is honorable to have loving relationships and people supporting you and you can create an environment to get more time to spend with them. I really hope that this conversation has edified you and inspired you as much as it has me. I hope that as you think about your business and what’s next for you, you carve out time for self care and family so that they become a part of the fabric, the framework, the results, the tracker, the mechanisms, the KPIs that you leverage. Justin didn’t say this. He did say he asked himself two questions every single day. And the questions are, did I have good experience with my family today? And did my network grow on a global level? The question I want you to ask yourself know, did what I do today get me more time to spend with my family so that you’re building out your team, you’re tightening those systems and your automation and your process so that you can get your time back. Because the one thing none of us will ever get again is time with those that we love. So we need to make sure that we are maximizing that at all costs. I really hope that this conversation has served you in the most amazing of ways, and if it has, please do me a favor. Take a picture and put it in your stories and tag me so I can see you listening to this episode and then make sure that you rate and review this podcast. When you do, you help us to expand our reach and that is ultimately what we want to do. I appreciate you guys so much and I’ll see you next time. Take care. Thank you for joining me for the Move to Millions podcast. If this episode has impacted you in any way, would you please take a moment and rate and review? Doing so helps us to deepen our impact and expand our reach around the world. And if you are ready to start your very own Move To Millions, I highly recommend that you order your very own copy of my brand new bestselling book, move to Millions the Proven Framework to Become a Million Dollar CEO with Grace and Ease. Instead of hustle and grind, you can get your copy and our bonuses [email protected]. Until next time, remember, millions are your birthright and to access them, you need only Move. I’ll see you next time.